Day 2's and Phone Game

By Lovedrop

As you go into the Field and practice your game, you will start to accumulate phone numbers. At some point the artist asks himself, "What do I do with these numbers? How do I convert these into lays?"

Oftentimes it happens like this: the player has been in the field for some weeks / months and finally he gets a number that has some importance to him. Perhaps the set went really well or the girl is especially hot, or the player hasn't been laid in a while. For whatever reason, he wants to play it JUST RIGHT so that he gets this girl. He might even post in an online forum or call a friend with game so he can ask, "What do I do with this number? How do I get this girl?" He doesn't want to fuck this up!!

And there's the rub. You cannot ever let some number be important to you - much in the same way that you cannot ever let any specific set matter to you. Running a set and calling a number are both activities that you should be doing over and over again purely for the practice.


If I am going into my 6th set of the night, and I know there will be more sets tonight (and tomorrow night, etc) I am just not going to be that concerned about the outcome. Instead, I can focus on the process and play with it. I can practice my skill while simultaneously giving off a natural, comfortable vibe that subcommunicates: I don't care if I fuck this up. Ironically this results in a greater success rate.

The same must be true of your phone calls and your day2s. You have to do many of them, or your skill will never improve. You can't take any one call or day2 seriously. You're just doing it for the practice. Enjoy the process. Be willing to lose (and learn.)

Many great posts have been written on phone game, these are just a few ideas to play around with:

--- Anyone who's taken a live program knows that you shouldn't eject from a set immediately after getting the phone number. Stay around and talk for a few more minutes.

-- Don't make the number itself the point. The point is the Time Bridge. Maybe you guys discussed going to sushi. Maybe some art exhibit. Whatever. The point is, the number is an incidental, not a goal. When in set, practice your bridging and collect numbers along the way.

--- Call her up soon after the sarge and chat for a few, then let her go. Call her in the next day or two and chat her up, then let her go. In this way you come off non-needy, and you are conditioning her to accept you as a normal part of her life. Not some bar guy, not some club fantasy last Saturday - but a real person who is a normal and regular part of her life.

--- Don't assume that every phone call MUST occur for the purpose of setting up a meet. Is this how you use the phone when you talk to your friends?

--- Time on the phone counts towards comfort time (the 7 hours.) So use it as an opportunity to build comfort, become a pleasantly chatty person, and practice. Only time on the phone will give you the practice so that you can vibe on the phone.

--- If you talk to her as described above, she will likely start hinting at a meet. Especially if you talk about the fun activities and friends that you experience in your day-to-day life. It's also perfectly reasonable to throw out an activity and see if she bites. If she doesn't, no big deal - your life is fun and fulfilling with or without her. You'll just get someone else. (These sorts of things, BTW, should be SUBCOMMUNICATED to her, *NOT* surface communicated.)

--- Even if a girl hasn't accepted an offer to meet (or preferably made one of her own) - it's NO BIG DEAL to you because as soon as you get off the phone with her, you've still got to call 5 or 10 or 20 other girls and practice the same phone game with them. This is the most important piece. When you are holding that one phone number, worried that you are going to fuck it up, you're going about it all wrong. You should be out sarging regularly. Eventually you will be getting phone numbers regularly and you will be going through your calling rotation regularly as well. It's hard to be worried about any specific number when you know that you still have 5 others to call. It's all just practice - and the lack of neediness will be evident in your voice.

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A Note on Flakes

There will always be some percentage of flakes. Girls tend to be flakey creatures. They don't just flake on you - they flake on their friends and family, and often they even flake on themselves.

--- Just keep calling them anyway. Put them in the rotation. There is a random component to the game. Sometimes a girl who really liked you won't return your calls. Sometimes a girl that wasn't so solid is suddenly ready to come over and fuck. You never know! So just keep them in the rotation and keep practicing. Never take any number seriously.

--- As your day1 game gets tight, your flake percentages will drop. So keep working on value, attract, qualify, comfort, etc. Keep working on conditioning girls to chase after you and get invested in the interaction. The tighter your game, the less flakes you will have to deal with.

--- Often you can't even get the girl on the phone. Big deal. Leave her a message and call the next girl. Go out sarging tonight. ETC! This is a lifestyle and these skills require practice.

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*** Day 2 ***

At some point in my game, I discovered that it was really easy to get isolated with a girl. I could game up a set, get a number, call her a few days later and soon she's sitting on my bed and we're watching a movie together.

The problem was, I hadn't done enough qualify or comfort in order to escalate. There was this weird pressure for me to make a move, even though she wasn't ready for me to do so, and things always went to shit after. I discovered that I could get girls over at my place but I couldn't make anything happen after that point.

The solution, for me, was to design a specific day2 plan that I could repeat over and over again. A routine that I could practice with on many different girls until I had my day2 game tight. If you are getting numbers, but not lays, it's useful to practice your day2 game in a structured way.

I also knew that my day2 should have as many venue changes, and as many hours together, as possible. For some reason, the more venue changes, the more comfort. The more hours together, the more comfort (moving towards that 7 hour mark.) So I built these ideas into my day2.

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"Let's do Sushi Wednesday night like we talked about. There's a good place in Pacific Beach near where I live. Come by my place around 7 and we'll go eat."

~ 7:30 PM --- Girl shows up at my place. I come downstairs but then I "forgot" something so we have to run back upstairs "real quick." She gets to see my pimp pad and my bay view, which she Oos and Ahhs over. Then I hustle her out and we drive to the sushi shop. Kudos for David DeAngelo for this trick...it familiarizes her with your place (so it's not a BIG DEAL / FEAR OF THE UNKNOWN when you return!) and it also makes her more curious about being in my apartment, since I hustled her out.

~8 PM --- We're at the Sushi shop. I have various routines that I always do...can't pour your own Sake, Japanese voice stuff, teach her chopsticks, etc. The specifics aren't important. Most of the time here is vibing, practicing comfort, question game, palm read, whatever. Getting to know each other.

~9 PM --- "There's this really cool band playing across the street, let's go check it out!!" Metal Shop is an 80's parody rock band that plays every Wednesday in Pacific Beach, right across the street from my sushi shop. I have a VIP card to the venue so we don't have to wait in line. I take the girl across the street but the band hasn't started yet. So we have a few drinks and more comfort building material. Some push/pull to keep the sexual tension.

~10 PM --- The concert room opens and we enter (another "venue change"). As the crowd thickens, I'm either leading her through the crowd or I've got my arms around her to protect her from the crowd. The band goes on shortly after and she spends the next 2 hours either laughing at their comedic dialogues, or singing along with old favorite rock songs.

~Midnight --- We drive back to my place. "Ok you can come upstairs but only for a few minutes, I have to work tomorrow." (Credit David D.)

~12:30 --- We're sitting on my balcony making out. I take her by the hand, say, "Let's go make out like a couple of teenagers," and lead her back into my bedroom and fuck her.

Notice how this routine allows me to get in lots of venue changes, pass time with the girl, and also practice other bits of my game...I can do cocky/funny and push/pull when I need attract. I can keep screening and qualifying her, and I can work on comfort building and kino escalation. This all occurs within a day2 structure that I can repeat every week with a new girl and practice until it is tight.

And tight it is - this day2 routine gets me laid.

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Another day2 routine that I came up with recently is for Saturday afternoons. "It's such a beautiful day. I'm going to get lunch down in PB near where I live. Come over and we'll go together."

--- Let her briefly upstairs and then hustle her out. Drive to the main drag in PB and park.

--- There is a billiards place that serves food. We hang out here for an hour or two, eat lunch and shoot some pool. Meanwhile gaming, comfort building, etc.

--- Bounce and walk up and down the street. Go into clothes shops and try stuff on. There's one shop in particular with cool masks, wigs, etc. Go into a vintage shop and try stuff on.

--- After a few hours of bouncing around together, we go back to my car.

--- Swing by the store on the way home "to pick up some stuff." Get BBQ fixins. Walking around in the store together is a great way to subconsciously activate domestic/couple fantasies in her lizard brain. She gets involved in picking food out - which makes her involved in the BBQ at my place.

--- Get back to my place. Make a few drinks and fire up the BBQ. Watch the sunset together. Make out, etc.

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Notice that all the venue changes seem perfectly spontaneous to her, even though they've all been planned out. So her experience is fun, constantly changing, and without pressure. You are leading through all of this, and practicing your day2 game along the way.

+++ Design a day2 plan (or several) that you can execute over and over again.

+++ Build the most useful logistics into the day2. Design in the 7 hours. Design in the venue changes. Design it so she ends up at your place. Focus on improving your skill and improving your day2 routine. Do it over and over again with many girls. Don't take it too seriously.

Hope this is helpful.

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Lovedrop is a Mystery Method Master Instructor, and has created an e-book that deals with this subject, and much, much more.